~는데: background for what comes next
By Daniel Buckley · 14 minute read · TOPIK 2
Vocabulary
- 우산 - umbrella
- 기분 - mood, feeling
- 키 - height
- 비빔밥 - bibimbap
- 대학생 - university student
- 걸리다 - to take (time)
- 들다 - to cost (money, effort)
- 외우다 - to memorise
- 조용하다 - to be quiet
- 계시다 - to be somewhere (honorific)
Look up ~는데 and you'll find a list: "but", "and", "so", "when", "although", "given that". Each is right some of the time, and the list is no help when you're trying to speak.
Here's the whole idea: a ~는데 clause gives the background, and the thing you're getting to comes next. Whichever English word fits is decided by that second clause. ~는데 itself does the same job every time.
Building the form
You already know most of this, because the first part is the modifier from Adjectives before nouns and ~는 것. Verbs take 는, and adjectives take ㄴ or 은. Then add 데.
Making the ~는데 form
- Verbs, and 있다 and 없다: drop 다, add 는데.먹다 → 먹는데살다 → 사는데맛있다 → 맛있는데
- Adjectives: add ㄴ데 or 은데.바쁘다 → 바쁜데좋다 → 좋은데춥다 → 추운데
- Nouns: add 인데, after a vowel too. The negative is 아닌데.학생 → 학생인데친구 → 친구인데
- Past, and 겠: add 는데 after 았/었 or 겠, verb or adjective.먹었는데바빴는데모르겠는데
- ㄹ/을 거예요: this becomes ㄹ/을 건데.갈 거예요 → 갈 건데
Pick a verb
먹다먹먹는데
Pick a verb
좋다좋좋은데
One idea: here's the background
Take one first clause, 비가 오는데, and put four different second clauses after it. The Korean stays the same each time, and only the English has to change.
비가 오는데 우산이 없어요.
Rain is coming, and (I) have no umbrella.
비가 오는데 어디 가요?
Rain is coming, so where are (you) going?
비가 오는데 우산을 가져가세요.
Rain is coming, so take umbrella.
비가 오는데 기분이 좋아요.
Rain is coming, but (I) feel good.
Each time, 비가 오는데 says the same thing: it's raining, keep that in mind. "And", "so" and "but" are English's way of spelling out a link that Korean leaves to the listener.
The one rule
- A는데 B: A is the background. B is the point.
What can come next
Three kinds of second clause turn up again and again. Don't treat these as three meanings. They're what the same background clause looks like from the other end.
A question or a request. The first clause says why you're asking. This is the most useful one, and it's how you stop sounding abrupt.
배가 고픈데 뭐 먹을까요?
Stomach is hungry, so shall (we) eat something?
더운데 창문 좀 열어 주세요.
(It) is hot, so please open window.
이 옷 예쁜데 얼마예요?
These clothes are pretty, so how much are (they)?
내일 부산에 갈 건데 같이 갈래요?
Tomorrow (I) will go to Busan, so do (you) want to go together?
The story goes on. The first clause introduces something, and the second says more about it.
어제 친구를 만났는데 정말 재미있었어요.
Yesterday (I) met friend, and (it) was really fun.
제 동생은 대학생인데 부산에 살아요.
My younger sibling is university student, and lives in Busan.
회사 근처에 식당이 있는데 비빔밥이 맛있어요.
Near office there is restaurant, and bibimbap is delicious.
Against expectation. Here the second clause clashes with the background, and English reaches for "but".
열심히 공부했는데 시험을 못 봤어요.
(I) studied hard, but did badly on exam.
키는 큰데 농구를 못해요.
Height is tall, but (I) can't play basketball.
어제는 추웠는데 오늘은 따뜻해요.
Yesterday was cold, but today is warm.
That last group is why people call ~는데 "but". ~지만 really does say "but". ~는데 only hands you the background, and you notice the clash yourself.
머리가 아픈데 약 있어요?
제 친구는 의사인데 서울에 살아요.
많이 먹었는데 또 배가 고파요.
늦었는데 택시를 탈까요?
어제 책을 샀는데 정말 재미있어요.
어제는 바빴는데 오늘은 괜찮아요.
Compare it with what you know. ~아/어서 says A caused B, and its "so" meaning can't lead into a request or a suggestion. ~는데 claims nothing about cause, so it has no trouble there.
날씨가 ___ 산책할까요?
The weather's nice. Shall we go for a walk?
길이 ___ 늦었어요.
The road was blocked, so I was late.
어제 영화를 ___ 정말 재미있었어요.
I saw a film yesterday, and it was really good.
~는데요: stopping after the background
You can stop after the background, add 요, and leave the second half to the listener. Nothing is actually said about the point, and that's what makes it polite. A flat no becomes a fact they can draw their own conclusion from.
오늘은 좀 바쁜데요.
Today (I) am a bit busy, so...
지금 안 계시는데요.
(He) isn't here now, so...
잘 모르겠는데요.
(I) don't really know, so...
이거 제 가방인데요.
This is my bag, so...
저는 안 먹었는데요.
I didn't eat (it), so...
제가 민수인데요.
I am Minsu, so...
Example 1 is how you turn down an invitation without saying no. Example 4 is what you say to someone walking off with your bag, and it's far gentler than telling them they've made a mistake. Example 6 is how you answer the phone when they ask for you. 전데요, short for 저인데요, does the same job.
It can also show mild surprise. 이거 맛있는데요! suggests this is better than you expected. As with most of these endings, the tone does a lot of the work, and a sharp ~는데요 can sound like pushing back.
- A
여보세요, 민수 씨 계세요?
Hello, is Minsu there?
- B
지금 안 계시는데요.
Now isn't here, so...
- A
언제 오세요?
When does (he) come?
- B
잘 모르겠는데요.
Don't really know, so...
- A
네, 알겠습니다. 다시 전화할게요.
Yes, understood. Will phone again.
그런데: the same idea, in a new sentence
그런데 is ~는데 on 그렇다, to be so. It starts a new sentence and turns everything you've just said into background. In speech it usually shrinks to 근데, which is fine in polite conversation but not in formal writing.
오늘 비가 와요. 그런데 우산이 없어요.
Today rain comes. And (I) have no umbrella.
이 식당은 맛있어요. 근데 좀 비싸요.
This restaurant is delicious. But (it) is a bit expensive.
그런데 오늘 뭐 해요?
By the way, what are (you) doing today?
Example 3 is the use the dictionaries translate as "by the way". It follows from the same idea: all that was background, and here's where I want to go now. 하지만 can't do that, because it's only "but".
는 데, with a space
Now for a different word that sounds exactly the same. 데 on its own is a noun meaning "place". It always follows a modifier, so 사는 데 is a place where someone lives. You usually can't hear the difference, so it's a matter of spelling, and Koreans get it wrong in writing too.
That noun stretches to mean "the doing of something", as in what it takes to do something or what something is good for. So it often comes before 걸리다, 들다, 좋다 and 필요하다.
제가 사는 데는 조용해요.
The place I live is quiet.
아픈 데가 있어요?
Is there a place that hurts?
갈 데가 없어요.
There is no place to go.
학교에 가는 데 삼십 분 걸려요.
To go to school takes thirty minutes.
집을 사는 데 돈이 많이 들어요.
To buy house costs a lot of money.
이 앱은 단어를 외우는 데 좋아요.
This app is good for memorising words.
To test it, try adding 에. The noun can take it, as in 가는 데에, and the ending ~는데 can't. If 에 fits, write the space. Here are the two side by side.
학교에 가는데 친구를 만났어요.
(I) was going to school, and met friend.
학교에 가는 데 삼십 분 걸려요.
To go to school takes thirty minutes.
이 책은 한국어를 ___ 좋아요.
This book is good for learning Korean.
어제 집에 ___ 비가 왔어요.
I was going home yesterday, and it rained.
여기서 공항까지 ___ 한 시간 걸려요.
It takes an hour to get from here to the airport.
Listen and type
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Play it as often as you like.
Common mistakes
날씨가 좋는데 산책할까요?
날씨가 좋은데 산책할까요?
좋다 is an adjective, so it takes 은데, the same form as 좋은 날씨.
이 식당은 맛있은데 비싸요.
이 식당은 맛있는데 비싸요.
있다 and 없다 take 는데, even in words like 맛있다 that English calls adjectives.
저는 학생는데 일도 해요.
저는 학생인데 일도 해요.
Nouns take 인데, from 이다.
Check yourself
Quick check
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배가 ___ 뭐 먹을까요? (고프다) I'm hungry. Shall we eat something?
고프다 is an adjective.
Summary
| Dictionary | Stem | ~는데 (verbs) |
|---|---|---|
| 먹다 | 먹 | 먹는데 |
| 가다 | 가 | 가는데 |
| 살다 | 살 | 사는데 |
| 듣다 | 듣 | 듣는데 |
| 있다 | 있 | 있는데 |
| Dictionary | Stem | ~ㄴ/은데 (adjectives) |
|---|---|---|
| 좋다 | 좋 | 좋은데 |
| 바쁘다 | 바쁘 | 바쁜데 |
| 춥다 | 춥 | 추운데 |
| 길다 | 길 | 긴데 |
| Dictionary | Past | ~았/었는데 |
|---|---|---|
| 먹다 | 먹었어요 | 먹었는데 |
| 가다 | 갔어요 | 갔는데 |
| 듣다 | 들었어요 | 들었는데 |
| 춥다 | 추웠어요 | 추웠는데 |
The family
- A는데 B: A is the background, B is the point.
- ~는데요: stop after A and let the listener finish.
- 그런데, 근데: everything so far is background, and a new sentence begins.
- 는 데, with a space: the noun 데, a place or the doing of something.
Now you can say
배가 고픈데 뭐 먹을까요?
Stomach is hungry, so shall (we) eat something?
잘 모르겠는데요.
(I) don't really know, so...
근데 오늘 뭐 해요?
By the way, what are (you) doing today?
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